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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:24:05 PM   
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I think we all know the issues of this lift impacting the steering components have nothing to do Ron Carter. When you change the geometry of the suspension, everything else attached is going to change, most certainty the steering. GM will not warranty that. We really need to letting FabTech know what we think. Hence the reason for this Forum! Ron Carter is a Great dealer and they back it up every time I'm there!

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:24:31 PM   
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Ok, "bu-bye" now!  Isn't that other forum looking for their "jack-ass" back?  Tell Jennifer and Terry, hello, as well.  I think they have forgotten where their loyalty should be . . . uh  . . . does the name Auggie sound slightly familiar? 


I came on here to make a point about having a problem with a specific dealer & the service I received.  Now, everyone wants to get personal, I'll return the favor Kimme, ask daddy warbucks if what happens in Hot Springs stays in Hot Springs
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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:29:05 PM   
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who's daddy warbucks?  you made it personal . . . if you are referring to something my husband did in Hot Springs, I'm assuming you think I have something to worry about . . . . ? You obviously don't know me or my husband!  Insecurity has never been an issue for either one of us . . . is that an issue for you?

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:29:18 PM   
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Also about the 75,000 mile warranty, once you had the lift kit installed it voided any warranty you have on any of the suspension parts...That is just something that GM have not and will not ever cover....It is the same for anything that you modify on the truck...Like exhaust, if you put in an aftermarket system GM will not cover it if anything goes wrong...Anyway sorry it happened buddy but you know that is why you don't see a whole lot of lifted H2's doing what we do in our trucks....I also don't think you will get anywhere with Hummer because of the fact the truck is lifted.....Also Fabtech won't even put a longer warrnty on there lift kits just because the are too heavy and they will have pre-mature wear on the suspension parts...
And truthfully the sales manager did  not have to be involved in the deal, but he chose to so that you would be taken care of....You know better than that....He bends over backwards for the customers...and he has before for you I am sure at one time or another...As far as saying bad things about Ron Carter, I don't think they did anything out of place but Like I said before I was not there for the whole deal....But the service manager and the sales manager are good in customer service and doing things the right way, if not the best I have ever delt with at any dealership.



Whoooopsie...notice that most of the items are steering parts & nothing pertaining to the lift.  How does one know he chose to   I didn't purchase this truck at Ron Carter, because of the original sales price quoted to me...so no one has bent over backwards for me concerning Ron Carter sales or service wise.

Truth be known, when I purchased the wife's H2 there...they wouldn't even put her texas tags on for her when they came in.

It's all your opinion so I'll take it with a grain of salt.  Just like my opinion & Ron Carter not being a good Hummer dealer.  what the happen to this: I just put this out here for everyone to read & conside; before modifying a Hummer, off-roading it & to think twice before you take a vehicle in for service at this particular Hummer dealership.  Just my POV, Lee



Okay so I lied....this was never ment as a "match" but whatever...You started this thread supposively so that people can read and conside so when I did you took it the wrong way..It is okay for you to bad mouth Ron Carter but it is not okay for us to praise them...What the hell is up with that?   Last I knew you and I were cool and now you have all of this animosity towards me...What the hell? Anyway if you have personal issues with me then PM me otherwise get back to what you originally started this thread to begin with...You having an issue with Ron Carter not me..


You just created the issue with you.  My original post wasn't in reference to anything about you.  I have a problem with the dealership & how a repair was accomplished & handled.  Now, you & your wife want to become involved, so I'll partake.
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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:35:15 PM   
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I know it wasn't but when I replied to your post you started shooting me down from the beggining...Anyway what are going to do with your truck now and the next time these issues come about?  Have you talked to Fabtech?

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:38:52 PM   
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YOU started making personal jabs about my husband's knowledge and of Hummers (amoung other things) when he was trying to explain/help you.  No he doesn't know everything there is to know but neither do you!  I can understand you are upset with Ron Carter and there's always going to be someone that is unhappy.  Not everyone will be happy with a dealership.  But you don't have to attack my husband's intregrity!  Or anyone else in this forum.  I'm done  . . . good luck to you.  I never met you but my husband said you were really cool . . . uummm . . . .

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:38:54 PM   
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I know it wasn't but when I replied to your post you started shooting me down from the beggining...Anyway what are going to do with your truck now and the next time these issues come about?  Have you talked to Fabtech?


These are not FabTech issues...I mentioned earlier that the idler arm or pitman arms appear to be causing the problems.  These parts are GM factory, Auggie even mentioned the pitman & idler arms, until he was informed they were stock items & not FabTech. 
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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:40:40 PM   
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Okay, my bad, what are going to do the next time it occurs?

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:45:05 PM   
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YOU started making personal jabs about my husband's knowledge and of Hummers (amoung other things) when he was trying to explain/help you. (my problem wasn't with your husband, it is with the dealership.  He doesn't know the entire story or events nor do you.  Yet, you want to act like you are an expert  )  No he doesn't know everything there is to know but neither do you! (Did you ever read where I said I did?  I put this out to the forum as my experience...take it or leave it)  I can understand you are upset with Ron Carter and there's always going to be someone that is unhappy.  Not everyone will be happy with a dealership.  But you don't have to attack my husband's intregrity!  Or anyone else in this forum.  I'm done  . . . good luck to you.  I never met you but my husband said you were really cool . . . uummm . . . .


This is a testicle section of the forum...

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:49:30 PM   
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Okay, my bad, what are going to do the next time it occurs?


I'm not through at the dealership...so it may still end up a warranty issue.  I've gathered some helpful information to support my thoughts & will present them to the powers to be. I'm in the process of NDT'ing the torsion bars & will then send them to a local metalurgist.   If factory parts fail, then I will not have a problem...Hummer will
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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:49:41 PM   
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That is not a word I want to see again...Especially pertaing to yours!!!  I think I might have to inlude that in what words are aprroved or not approved...Anyway answer me I want to keep talking about it and lets figure what is the best way to go about it for those of us who might run into the same issues you have...

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 10:54:41 PM   
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testicle section, huh?  I guess that counts you out!

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 11:00:14 PM   
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testicle section, huh?  I guess that counts you out!


Aren't you just full of it tonight...relax...you testicle expert
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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 11:02:54 PM   
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ok  . . . is that your way of kissing and making up?  You betcha honey! I AM TESTICLE QUEEN, BABEE!

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 11:03:17 PM   
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Okay you guys enough about the testicles....God I don't even like writing the damn word...Anyway why do you think those parts failed?

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 11:14:10 PM   
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Okay you guys enough about the testicles....God I don't even like writing the damn word...Anyway why do you think those parts failed?


It's a known fact on non-lifted trucks as well.  Chevy, GM, Hummer, makes no difference.  I've spoken with a few dealers & truck owners on both coasts this week concerning the problems at hand.  The majority of the non-lifted H2's have replaced both the pitman & idler arms twice by 50K miles.  So far I haven't been able to locate any lifted trucks with 50K+ to inquire about them.  The majority of the lifted trucks haven't experience these issues to date?  Most of them had more mileage on them than mine did.  I did speak to two dealers who have covered these parts via warranty in the past thirty days.
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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/15/2006 11:22:09 PM   
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Well there are a lot of different factors that could cause these issues on any truck...especially the heavier ones...One of the truck owners I have talked to has replaced these parts four times in less than 60k....This guy was pretty damn hard on his truck though you could tell he had gone through some tough terrain...Like I said there is alot of different factors that could come into play....Anyway, good luck with it and hope to wheel with soon...Let us know what happens....Have a good one!!! 

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/16/2006 8:14:59 AM   
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I know I'm late getting into this discussion, but having had a lifted H2 and dealing with both Ron Carter and another Hummer Dealership on warranty issue's let me say this; as soon as the mechanics see the lift they blame every problem on the lift. My body control module went out, they (not Ron Carter) tried to blame the lift.

I repalced my stock Idler and pitman arm twice in 36,000 miles. The problem is GM makes it just strong enough for stock (barely), the over size tires and wider stance overload these components  (not the lift). If your going to have a lifted truck, learn to replace them yourself, not hard.

On the other hand when I broke the big stuff, (transmission, transfercase, rear axles) both dealerships stepped up and repaired the truck with no questions!!!

I have gotten Fantastic service from RON CARTER and their crew (and I bought both my H2's somewhere else).

When it was the lifted truck, the whole time it was in the shop (not Ron Carter), they were unsure whether warranty was going to pick it up or not, in the end they did. Without the lift there were no questions. Without the lift I have had no steering components failure, I'm still on my fabtech idler, pitman and tierods added at 10,000 miles. By the way I have never broken a tie rod; WEIRD, 30,000 on this truck.

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/16/2006 9:56:29 AM   
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Doc,

As of 7:30 AM today the truck is back at Ron Carter's shop   I was driving north on I-45, when all of a sudden ***bam*** the front right side of the truck dropped & began to make a load thumping noise.  Limped over to RC... one call to a friend & I'm standing in the service shop on the lift with the service manager & mechanic within the hour.   So now...I can't argue that the service manager & mechanic don't respond, which BTW was never the problem.  Had everyone read the content of the first post.

I've already had one meeting with the powers to be...and it was considered a problem on their part.  Which they will resolve internally or so they said.  I'll wait & see.

As far as trucks, Doc, I currently own three International Scouts ('65, '72 & '79), all 4X4 and ground up restorations.  Not to mention the two H-2', one lifted ('05 SUT) & the other stock ('06 SUV), along with two Ford trucks & a Honda.  I wrench on the three Harley's when they require attention also.   I don't have a problem working on any of them.  However, if it's a warranty issue, why do it yourself?

My concern, from the  beginning was to  make people aware of issue involved in modifying vehicles under warranty & that repairs were accomplished on my truck without being approved.

Are you still running the FabTech pitman & idler arms? 

Thanks for the informative reply...

Lee

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RE: Ron Carter Hummer ain't cool... - 12/16/2006 2:07:05 PM   
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Yes still running the Fabtech parts no problems yet!
Can't wait to lift again, I love the way the thing performs with the lift. I like mud more than rocks. Every Breakage has been on rocks or climbing something.

As far as the other vehicles, the H2 is just too heavy for the components GM uses. Perhaps the 08 will be beefier. Always a reason to upgrade.
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